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why is it that the fbi still can't get into the site. we have troops all oh over and they are able to move and maneuver and do so at their own peril. why are we not in benghazi today? i think president obama is enormously vulnerable on this point. most americans question whether we will be the world's sole superpower five years from now or maybe three years from now. it is incumbent on mitt romney to do the same thing that netanyahu did at the u.n. with the chart. with the bomb and the 90% red line. he needs to tie that together in a visual way. what is the world going to look like and what are we going to live like if america is not the unquestioned superpower in the world and how is this translating to the lives of every day americans. does it matter? i think most people want america to be the strongest and want competence on the issues. >> chris: juan? >> when you look back at the timeline i think susan rice when she spoke to you chris gave you the best information she had at that time. and what you see now coming from the dni office
why is it that the fbi still can't get into the site. we have troops all oh over and they are able to move and maneuver and do so at their own peril. why are we not in benghazi today? i think president obama is enormously vulnerable on this point. most americans question whether we will be the world's sole superpower five years from now or maybe three years from now. it is incumbent on mitt romney to do the same thing that netanyahu did at the u.n. with the chart. with the bomb and the 90% red...
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fbi does not know whether it there was a mob that was exploited or was it set up by al qaeda or some other group -- we think now it may be some other group -- or not? >> evan? >> i don't think there's any conspiracy here. i think it does take time to figure out who did it. i think they would dearly love to kill the person who did it and eventually they will. >> want to read a great book about a cagey chief executive? by evan thomas. how would he handle the situation like this one? >> based on his presidency, he would have done everything he possibly could to avoid a war. but he would have been aggressive, used the cia and technology to stop iran from getting a bomb. and, this is important, he would have drawn the line somewhere and have been serious about it. heas aall-or-notng guy could no half-mohrs. if you are going to fight a war, all the way. >> which, ironically, is what the israelis are asking obama to draw the line -- you had the biggest power in the world -- that is the only thing, netanyahu said at the u.s. this week, that could possibly change the course. but i just want t
fbi does not know whether it there was a mob that was exploited or was it set up by al qaeda or some other group -- we think now it may be some other group -- or not? >> evan? >> i don't think there's any conspiracy here. i think it does take time to figure out who did it. i think they would dearly love to kill the person who did it and eventually they will. >> want to read a great book about a cagey chief executive? by evan thomas. how would he handle the situation like this...
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because the fbi -- this has become a farce -- whatever the fbi can do will be minimized from what they cld have done in early hours following this. >> this is a fully compromised crime scene at this point, all viewers out there who spent years watching csi understand that. the problem is we're lost in the semantics do we miss a piece of intelligence in date leads up to this attack, this occurred on anniversary of 9/11, common sense would tell you yes there is a possibility. bu the thing they white house does not want to talk about is how badly they screwed up, that assessment, a year ago, when we decided to have a consulate in benghazi, it is a war zone, we know there was massive amounts of weapons there. lou: is the state department capicapable of such irresponsibility. this is such a deeply disturbing conclusion it seems you are intimating. >> again, i look at it from a operational perspective, i don't know about politics. lou: that is not a political question. >> yes, it is inepttude or willful ignorance of a fact they know they are in a high -- area, and they allow senior most dipl
because the fbi -- this has become a farce -- whatever the fbi can do will be minimized from what they cld have done in early hours following this. >> this is a fully compromised crime scene at this point, all viewers out there who spent years watching csi understand that. the problem is we're lost in the semantics do we miss a piece of intelligence in date leads up to this attack, this occurred on anniversary of 9/11, common sense would tell you yes there is a possibility. bu the thing...
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republicans also question how good the investigation can be when security concerns have stopped an fbi team from getting to the crime scene, having to work instead from libya's capitol city of tripoli, 400 miles away. a official said that while that is limited, it is more important to question people in libya thought to know about the attack. and he says the process is yielding more valuable information. one other note, peter king, chairman of the house committee, said that ambassador susan rice should resign because of her statement. >>> all right, we want to turn to andrea mitchell, chief foreign correspondent, and andrea how rare is it for the intelligence committee to come out and acknowledge they got it wrong initially, and is it having any effect on the response here? >> reporter: well, first of all it is very, very rare for them to make this type of admission. and politics are clearly in play. the questions are being asked, why did they get it wrong? was it because of a coverup, or was it because they were trying to avoid acknowledging mistakes this close to the election? so the
republicans also question how good the investigation can be when security concerns have stopped an fbi team from getting to the crime scene, having to work instead from libya's capitol city of tripoli, 400 miles away. a official said that while that is limited, it is more important to question people in libya thought to know about the attack. and he says the process is yielding more valuable information. one other note, peter king, chairman of the house committee, said that ambassador susan...
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but the fbi will not go to benghazi. they are in tripoli at our embassy there which has good security. they will not go to benghazi because the security is so awful. even now, 12, 14 days after the attack. so you have got to know that these al qaeda terrorist crazies, they knew that, and they were gunning for our ambassador and the white house was informed of it right away and they are covering that up, jack jacobs. >> it is absolutely true. now it's known the fbi is not only in benghazi, they are not going either. indeed it is even worse than that. there is a large number of witnesses whom they could interview in benghazi who will not go to tripoli to get interviewed by the fbi. they are very much concerned about their names being released, their families being in trouble. if they testify. they are not going anywhere. the fbi is not going to give any information from people who were on the ground and know what happened in benghazi. >> jennifer rubin, back to you. interesting. a bloomberg news poll, mitt romney is now pl
but the fbi will not go to benghazi. they are in tripoli at our embassy there which has good security. they will not go to benghazi because the security is so awful. even now, 12, 14 days after the attack. so you have got to know that these al qaeda terrorist crazies, they knew that, and they were gunning for our ambassador and the white house was informed of it right away and they are covering that up, jack jacobs. >> it is absolutely true. now it's known the fbi is not only in benghazi,...
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the fbi and arizona authorities are on the hunt for the killer of this border patrol agent. it happened just north of the mexican border in a remote town called naco. it's known as a drug-smuggling corridor. we understand the agents were assigned to the brian terry station different was just recently named the brian terry station for the agent who was killed in 2010. william lajeunesse has been on this story. in the meantime. this for from you the business fronts. lockheed martin saying they will not issue layoff warnings before the notch election due to looming automatic spending cuts. the company saying the white house will use taxpayer dollars to pay for necessary serve even costs that arise. one lawmaker calling that something close to extortion. stuart, give us the background here. why would they call that extortion. >> it many the taxpayer getting squeeze. let's go forward to january 1. that's when defense department cuts are supposed to take place. 60 days in advance that november 2, warning notices are supposed to go out from contractors to their employees saying her
the fbi and arizona authorities are on the hunt for the killer of this border patrol agent. it happened just north of the mexican border in a remote town called naco. it's known as a drug-smuggling corridor. we understand the agents were assigned to the brian terry station different was just recently named the brian terry station for the agent who was killed in 2010. william lajeunesse has been on this story. in the meantime. this for from you the business fronts. lockheed martin saying they...
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20 days later still has not set foot in banghazi. >> i would guess the fbi is trying. and my guess is that he -- the individual who makes the decision has decided that the situation's still not safe for that team of people to go in. obviously every day that goes by means that the -- the scene will have been sufficiently disturbed, that the likelihood of their learning much diminishes with every passing day. >> greta: how could it not be safe for our fbi who are pretty well trained for security, yet it was safe for our ambassador and others to be there? >> it wasn't safe. >> greta: well, no, but the thinking. i mean, obviously it wasn't, because they were killed. but the thinking that the fbi are not tough enough and armed enough and ready to go and investigate that, because as you say as time marches on, we lose evidence, we lose information. >> sure. i think that once an event like that happens, and the people are killed, it's clear that they misjudged the security situation. they didn't have the kind of security that they needed to stay alive. and my guess is that it
20 days later still has not set foot in banghazi. >> i would guess the fbi is trying. and my guess is that he -- the individual who makes the decision has decided that the situation's still not safe for that team of people to go in. obviously every day that goes by means that the -- the scene will have been sufficiently disturbed, that the likelihood of their learning much diminishes with every passing day. >> greta: how could it not be safe for our fbi who are pretty well trained...
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negligence involved, or the president doesn't want us to realize libya may be a failed state in the fbi agents can't even make into banghazi. >> i watched the presentation. i thought it was amazing that someone in her position would go on with that degree of certainty, that fast, and that authoritatively and be that wrong. >> did you know the chairman of the homeland security committee has asked for susan rice to resign? does the president have 100% confidence in susan rice? >> absolutely. she's done a terrific job for this country, for this administration. >> we do know the administration has been extremely inconsistent. we know this was a preplanned terrorist attack. the point i'm trying to make is, we need to get ulthe facts to prevent that from happening again, but enjoy this is indicative of a broader picture, which is the absolute unraveling of the obama administration's foreign policy. >> this was a terrorist attack on 9/11 that took the life of a united states ambassador, an american ambassador. this is serious stuff. americans deserve the truth on what happened. >> greta: so u.
negligence involved, or the president doesn't want us to realize libya may be a failed state in the fbi agents can't even make into banghazi. >> i watched the presentation. i thought it was amazing that someone in her position would go on with that degree of certainty, that fast, and that authoritatively and be that wrong. >> did you know the chairman of the homeland security committee has asked for susan rice to resign? does the president have 100% confidence in susan rice?...
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is that the answer you want from the fbi? >> well, i'm not sure what the fbi is doing. i suspect they probably are monitoring the accounts. i would suspect they are doing that but, we want the accounts to be taken down because they communicate with other terrorists and promote immediate violence against americans and other people throughout the world so, they don't have the -- these groups don't have the right to use an american company to promote terrorism throughout the world and that's why we have requested that they not be allowed to use these twitter accounts. >> right. we have reached out to -- fox news has reached out of to the fbi for a statement. we have not heard back yet from the fbi on that let me play devil's advocate here wouldn't it be more beneficial to have these twitter accounts out there because we could monitor them? we could see who is following the account of hamas trace it back. find the linkages that way. is this not another opportunity for us to maybe educate ourselves about maybe homegrown terrorists, terrorist cells living within the united st
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fbi agents finally arrived at the u.s. consulate. more than three weeks after the terrorist attack in which four americans were killed, including our ambassador. then they left. they spent less than a day. my guest is here to sort out all that is happening in libya and washington d.c. as best we can understand him -- understand it. joining me now, andrew mccarthy, for protecting the federal prosecutor. he is also the author of the book spring fever, the illusion of is what democracy. but have you here. >> has to be here. thank you. lou: this is incredible. the fbi held up in tripoli for over three weeks. they get into benghazi. some have said as little as three hours on the so-called seen of that attack. and then depart. >> it is pointless to have the fbi tried to operate in any country where you either or both don't have a competent government that is actually cooperating with us. you know, if you have a situation like we had in saudi arabia, for example, after the cold war, we have a fairly competent government in its jurisdiction,
fbi agents finally arrived at the u.s. consulate. more than three weeks after the terrorist attack in which four americans were killed, including our ambassador. then they left. they spent less than a day. my guest is here to sort out all that is happening in libya and washington d.c. as best we can understand him -- understand it. joining me now, andrew mccarthy, for protecting the federal prosecutor. he is also the author of the book spring fever, the illusion of is what democracy. but have...
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>> well obviously i'm not going to speak for the fbi. but i think the key thing here, we live in a dangerous world with threats out there. and we're going to make sure that the appropriate steps are taken to enhance security, make sure our personnel and ambassadors are secure. >> is there a military option for the united states to lead the way in libya, to track down his killers? >> i'm not going to speak to that but the president was very clear the day after this event, this tragedy, that we are going to make sure that these killers are brought to justice. >> was it inappropriate for him to go to a fundraiser the day after this attack, in retrospect knowing it was a terrorist attack? inappropriate for him to engage in politics as usual? >> no, the president obviously is 24/7 engaged in the job of the presidency. he spent an enormous amount of time in these weeks in the aftermath of this terrible tragedy. so absolutely not. a president is on call 24/7 and that comes with the job. >> but apparently not during u.n. meetings, as "the new yo
>> well obviously i'm not going to speak for the fbi. but i think the key thing here, we live in a dangerous world with threats out there. and we're going to make sure that the appropriate steps are taken to enhance security, make sure our personnel and ambassadors are secure. >> is there a military option for the united states to lead the way in libya, to track down his killers? >> i'm not going to speak to that but the president was very clear the day after this event, this...
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then they say they can't whether it was or not, so the fbi completes an investigation, which it hasn't begun. >> this is a cover-up in the middle of a campaign, a cover-up related to the security of the united states of america, relating to the depths of four brave americans. >> if you're applying intelligence and common sense, the fact is this clearly was a terrorist attack. >> i think operate clearly it was a terrorist attack, because a group of terrorists obviously conducted that attack on the consulate. >> so this campaign of deceit was deployed, was put out there because obama has a re-election campaign, and the truth would make him a one-term president. so we can't have the truth. we can't have the truth about anything. we can't have the truth about the failures of his economic policies. we can't have the truth about the failure of his foreign policy. we can't have the truth about his overall failure as a president at anything. >> greta: and the hits keep coming and fast. former new hampshire governor john sununu ratchets it up, saying president obama is absolutely lazy and detac
then they say they can't whether it was or not, so the fbi completes an investigation, which it hasn't begun. >> this is a cover-up in the middle of a campaign, a cover-up related to the security of the united states of america, relating to the depths of four brave americans. >> if you're applying intelligence and common sense, the fact is this clearly was a terrorist attack. >> i think operate clearly it was a terrorist attack, because a group of terrorists obviously...
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we were told by susan rice the fbi's investigating. the fbi has never gone in to banghazi. this is 15, 16 days later. that tells you banghazi is an utterly unsafe city. you know, it's al-qaedaville, if you will, if the fbi can't go into the consulate and investigate. barack obama is saying we've won the war against al-qaeda, we're winning the war, they're in retreat, all the rest of it. if al-qaeda is that strong in banghazi, the libyan government can't deal with this thing, what did we liberate there? al-qaeda is in the arabian peninsula, it's in anbar province, it's in libya, it's in pakistan. the main one, and hillary clinton just referred to it today, take a look at northern mali. it's the size of france. the affiliate of al-qaeda has taken over the place entirely. she seemed to suggest the attack might have originated there. right next door an american general has been in there. they're talking about a 3,000-man army to invade that area. what's at stake is obama's entire middle east policy and all this -- you know, queue sama is dead and year on a roll. >> sean: if the
we were told by susan rice the fbi's investigating. the fbi has never gone in to banghazi. this is 15, 16 days later. that tells you banghazi is an utterly unsafe city. you know, it's al-qaedaville, if you will, if the fbi can't go into the consulate and investigate. barack obama is saying we've won the war against al-qaeda, we're winning the war, they're in retreat, all the rest of it. if al-qaeda is that strong in banghazi, the libyan government can't deal with this thing, what did we...
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the fbi would not report on what, if anything, they found. this comes after the "the washington post" newspaper reported that one of its journalists found sensitive documents in the compound sitting in plain sight. today the attorney general eric holder would not comment on those documents. >> i don't want to necessarily comment on that which is an ongoing matter. but i'm confident that through the steps that we are taking and that we plan to take that we will be able to exploit the scene as is appropriate and hold accountable those people who committed those dastardly acts. >> trace: meantime lawmakers say a state department official is set to testify that the administration shot down requests for extra security in libya and that's despite evidence of growing violence in that area. >> james rosen with the news. he is live in washington. and james, u.s. military personnel had to escort the fbi into that benghazi compound. >> nearly a month after the attacks, trace, the forensic value of the benghazi complex and that of the secret annex a half
the fbi would not report on what, if anything, they found. this comes after the "the washington post" newspaper reported that one of its journalists found sensitive documents in the compound sitting in plain sight. today the attorney general eric holder would not comment on those documents. >> i don't want to necessarily comment on that which is an ongoing matter. but i'm confident that through the steps that we are taking and that we plan to take that we will be able to exploit...
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and take a look at the story yesterday morning, we couldn't get the fbi agents into benghazi. so, i think you've got here, a horrendous scandal and a coverup that's unfolding right now. >> mike: well, it's inexplicable to me, pat, in in case as i said yesterday, in watergate, it was a scandal, but nobody died. we've got a dead ambassador and three other brave americans who lost their lives and he think the american people deserve an answer. but yet, we're talking about why mitt romney's campaign is struggling, whether it is or isn't, and it seems like, and i want you to respond to this, is there, in your mind, an unprecedented level of attempt of the media to influence this election for barack obama? >> i've never seen a media more biased in any political campaign in my life and it's out of the closet. mike, i worked over at the network, msnbc where i discovered fairly late, i guess, maybe there wasn't all that many conservatives over there. but what is going on now (laughter) >> not too many. >> fairly lonely there for a while. but what is going on is that people are coming r
and take a look at the story yesterday morning, we couldn't get the fbi agents into benghazi. so, i think you've got here, a horrendous scandal and a coverup that's unfolding right now. >> mike: well, it's inexplicable to me, pat, in in case as i said yesterday, in watergate, it was a scandal, but nobody died. we've got a dead ambassador and three other brave americans who lost their lives and he think the american people deserve an answer. but yet, we're talking about why mitt romney's...
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. >> reporter: neither does retired fbi agent john anthony. he gives the tip zero credibility. >> whether they find a body or not, i don't know. i doubt that. but if they do, i guarantee you it is not jimmy hoffa. >> reporter: anthony says the fbi has a good idea who pulled off the hit and where, but it sure wasn't in this neighborhood. why could the fbi never find the body? >> because there is no body. the body, in our opinion, was cremated or was thrown into a vat of acid or whatever. >> reporter: whatever happened, the mafia backed teamster boss is legendary. celebrated in movies like this one, going up against u.s. attorney general robert kennedy. >> the justice department has plenty on you mr. hoffa. >> you don't impress me. i don't need $300 million and my brother elected -- >> reporter: many failed attempts to find him, tips had him buried in cement near the end zone of old giant stadium. they looked for blood stains on the floor boards of an old detroit home. hoffa's middle name was riddle and so is trying to pinpoint why his fate capt
. >> reporter: neither does retired fbi agent john anthony. he gives the tip zero credibility. >> whether they find a body or not, i don't know. i doubt that. but if they do, i guarantee you it is not jimmy hoffa. >> reporter: anthony says the fbi has a good idea who pulled off the hit and where, but it sure wasn't in this neighborhood. why could the fbi never find the body? >> because there is no body. the body, in our opinion, was cremated or was thrown into a vat of...
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so, for example, africom, the agency, fbi, all tracking jihadi activity in eastern libya since at least 12 months ago. >> right. so they were aware. what about ambassador stevens? this story about the morning run, darrell issa included. threats against him from jihadi groups so he stopped his run for a week but then went back to it. was he too trusting? >> he was an honest broker. but i think, again, it's important to parse the kinds of violence. the threats against ambassador stevens on facebook were listed by a pro gadhafi group, which is not necessarily a jihadi group. so you've got different actors with different agendas. now, it's also important to note that the threats against ambassador stevens took place in tripoli, which is a different security environment than ben ghazi. so you have to evaluate where you are, where the threats are coming from, and you have to distinguish between them. and this is something that the intelligence community has been trying to grapple with. >> thank you very much, jeff porter, we appreciate it. and eli lake, as well. and still "outfront," countdow
so, for example, africom, the agency, fbi, all tracking jihadi activity in eastern libya since at least 12 months ago. >> right. so they were aware. what about ambassador stevens? this story about the morning run, darrell issa included. threats against him from jihadi groups so he stopped his run for a week but then went back to it. was he too trusting? >> he was an honest broker. but i think, again, it's important to parse the kinds of violence. the threats against ambassador...
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then the confirmation that the fbi had not set foot inside benghazi was pretty startling for all the times we heard from administration officials this week that the investigation was ongoing. and it is very well ongoing. but they haven't been to the site. megyn: which would explain why cnn was able to find the personal journal of ambassador stevens sitting on the floor at the terrorist attack scene because officials weren't over there themselves. we have yet to hear from the white house in the wake of these revelations in any on-camera way. they have given some paper statement and interestingly they canceled the white house press briefing today despite the fact we are told the president doesn't have an event that would require the cancellation. they are not talking to the media about this. the paper statement says no information was given in bad faith. that's what they put out to the media, and there was no attempt to down play the attack. at some point will president obama have to speak to this? >> reporter: i think more and more members of the media are following this story closely
then the confirmation that the fbi had not set foot inside benghazi was pretty startling for all the times we heard from administration officials this week that the investigation was ongoing. and it is very well ongoing. but they haven't been to the site. megyn: which would explain why cnn was able to find the personal journal of ambassador stevens sitting on the floor at the terrorist attack scene because officials weren't over there themselves. we have yet to hear from the white house in the...
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first of all there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. putting together the best information we have available to us today, our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. >> p.j., did she say too much there? >> i mean, those were evidently some talking points that had come out of the intelligence community. i think today the tilt is more towards this was planned attack. there had been some milling around near the embassy -- near the consulate beforehand. we obviously know more today than we did and have a greater perspective today now that we have people back, interviewing them and multiple investigations going on as susan rice said. but, you know, we still don't have the definitive view on what exactly happened and what we should do about it. >> i want to open this up to our panel here. in terms of how this plays out on the campaign trail, the general thinking is foreign policy isn't go
first of all there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. putting together the best information we have available to us today, our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in cairo. >> p.j., did she say too much there? >> i mean, those were evidently some talking points that had come out of the...
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a senior law enforcement official, telling fran townsend, the fbi wanted the u.s. military to provide perimeter support in benghazi, protection in other words, but that request was not granted. fran is a former white house homeland security adviser, served in the george w. bush administration. sits on the cia external advisory panel and recently visited libya with mcandrews & forbes. and former fbi assistant director tom pointes who has extensive experience in investigating attacks overseas. so there was military protection to go into benghazi, why didn't they get it? >> the answer to the question is not really clear. so it's not unusual, when you want to set up a security perimeter, you may look to the host country. if the host country is unable or unwilling to provide it, we don't know what the answer to that is, you may ask if you think you need it for u.s. military support, but that's got to go through a process. it needs state department and nsc support, the u.s. military would have to make an assessment about how big a security package that would entail and l
a senior law enforcement official, telling fran townsend, the fbi wanted the u.s. military to provide perimeter support in benghazi, protection in other words, but that request was not granted. fran is a former white house homeland security adviser, served in the george w. bush administration. sits on the cia external advisory panel and recently visited libya with mcandrews & forbes. and former fbi assistant director tom pointes who has extensive experience in investigating attacks...